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  Do you have any shocking experiences of JW prejudice against non-JWs? I have one report to share.

  by Island Man in

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  a non-jw friend of mine told me of her experience at a just concluded regional convention that she went to.

  she said that during some announcements after a song, there was an announcement advising the audience to be mindful of the need to safeguard their belongings because not all persons present at the convention are delegates.

  she said she was shocked to hear this rather prejudiced announcement that clearly insinuated all non-delegates are untrustworthy and only delegates are honest.

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  sir82: I dunno, I wouldn't necessarily find such an announcement "shocking".
  I've attended conventions in urban areas where there were lots of idlers hanging about outside. Once they figure out that the arena is completely open, has air conditioning, and there are people who tend to leave stuff on their seats unattended for hours at a time....seems like word would spread amongst themselves that there is a lot of "potential" there.

  I don't think she had an issue with advising the audience to secure their belongings because of the possibility of theft. I think the problem was the blanket insinuation that persons who are not delegates are automatically untrustworthy while the delegates were all above suspicion. That's an unfair and offensive prejudice. Most people are not thieves. A minority of JWs are thieves and a minority of non-JWs are thieves. Maybe the percentage of non-JWs who are thieves is higher than the percentage of JWs that are. But in both cases I'm willing to bet that it's a small percentage - a small minority - who are thieves. So it's highly improper to negatively label an entire group of people because of the bad actions of a few individuals among them.
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  Do you have any shocking experiences of JW prejudice against non-JWs? I have one report to share.

  by Island Man in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a non-jw friend of mine told me of her experience at a just concluded regional convention that she went to.

  she said that during some announcements after a song, there was an announcement advising the audience to be mindful of the need to safeguard their belongings because not all persons present at the convention are delegates.

  she said she was shocked to hear this rather prejudiced announcement that clearly insinuated all non-delegates are untrustworthy and only delegates are honest.

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  freddo: Everyone there with an intent to listen to the program is a "delegate" aren't they?

  No. Here's the Google provided definition of the word:

  a person sent or authorized to represent others, in particular an elected representative sent to a conference.

  synonyms:

  representative, envoy, emissary, commissioner, agent, deputy, commissary;

  It is clear from the definition of the word that it must refer to baptized JWs in good standing. The delegates are those in attendance who wear the ID badges stating their name and congregation. The term definitely does not refer to non-JW visitors at the congregation.

  So a statement warning persons to secure their belongings because non-delegates are present is very prejudicial and offensive. Imagine you were a black man and you visited a function where the majority present were white and at some point in the function there is an announcement telling people to secure their belongings because non-whites are present. How would you feel?
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  Harmagedon backpack... Are we retarded??

  by sp74bb in

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  2. friends

  sorry for this matter has been already discussed.. i got shocked after watching this video:.

  kingdom hall disaster demonstration.

  this is really insane !!!

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  Personally, I don't see anything wrong with this video. Contrary to the title of the OP, it has nothing to do with Armageddon. It is simply a skit sensitizing a congregation on the need to be prepared for natural disasters. I think that's a good thing and can't think of a rational reason why it should be criticized ... well, maybe some of the acting isn't up to Hollywood standards, but it is just a skit, after all.

  The JW religion is a harmful cult with teachings and practices that can have severe negative psychological effects and even result in death for some members. I am sure many on here have suffered negatively as a result of the cult. But we must be careful not to let our pain, anger or frustration cause us to become irrational critics seeing faults where there are none.
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  Do you have any shocking experiences of JW prejudice against non-JWs? I have one report to share.

  by Island Man in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  a non-jw friend of mine told me of her experience at a just concluded regional convention that she went to.

  she said that during some announcements after a song, there was an announcement advising the audience to be mindful of the need to safeguard their belongings because not all persons present at the convention are delegates.

  she said she was shocked to hear this rather prejudiced announcement that clearly insinuated all non-delegates are untrustworthy and only delegates are honest.

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  Island Man

  A non-JW friend of mine told me of her experience at a just concluded regional convention that she went to. She said that during some announcements after a song, there was an announcement advising the audience to be mindful of the need to safeguard their belongings because not all persons present at the convention are delegates.

  She said she was shocked to hear this rather prejudiced announcement that clearly insinuated all non-delegates are untrustworthy and only delegates are honest. She said she was even more shocked by the fact that the audience didn't react in any way to indicate that they recognized something inappropriate was said.

  Do you have any experiences of shocking prejudice against "worldly" persons by JWs?
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  Got my JC cancelled... (at least for now)

  by Sanchy in

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  2. friends

  so my wife and i have been in the process of fading for a few months now as per my original post here.

  about a week ago, i was browsing some ex-jw facebook groups when i saw a post that linked to the crisis of conscience book.

  i said "f@(k it" and hit share on it.. a few hours later, i get a long text letter from my mom (who was a fb friend of mine) telling me the typical "good luck finding friends in the world" and how we have "nothing in common anymore"; basically, it was a 'farewell' text.

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  Here's what I think will happen:

  They'll admonish you. Then they will give a marking talk at the kingdom hall where they will mention that loyal JWs do not need to be told from the platform that an inactive one is no longer one of JWs to make the determination that such one is not to be associated with. Any loyal JW who knows of an inactive one engaging in serious sin, including sharing or promoting apostate information on social media, is well within his right to decide to treat such ones as they would a disfellowshipped one. I think something similar was said at this year's RC.

  So between your former JW friends seeing your share and the elders giving the marking talk, you'd be treated just as if you'd been disfellowshipped. You haven't dodged the shun gun. You've only dodged the official paper-work that normally goes along with it.
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  Bunker elder Meme

  by aintenoughwiskey in

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  i noticed this on reddit.

  they shouldn't have all the fun.

  ill get it started.

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  When Bunker Elder prays to him, Jehovah loses his composure and starts screaming excitedly, like the crazy fan of a Rock superstar:

  "Oh my God! Oh my God! He's talking to me ... can you believe this?! Bunker . Elder . is . talking . to . me!"

  Then he has a brain orgasm and faints.
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  Bunker elder Meme

  by aintenoughwiskey in

  1. social
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  i noticed this on reddit.

  they shouldn't have all the fun.

  ill get it started.

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  The reason JWs don't need Jesus as mediator is that Bunker elders's sweat atones for the sins of all JWs from the days of Russel until Armageddon.

  I know a man who has a badly disfigured face and is now blind. He zoomed in on a Google Earth image of Bunker Elder's home. Bunker Elder was in the house praying at the time the satellite photo was taken.

  The only reason Jehovah hasn't anointed Bunker Elder is that the angels all protested to Him, their unworthiness to have him in heaven in their presence.
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  Sun,moon, earth and mathematics .

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
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  just thought id let you all in on some info i found on northeasttruth.com.

  that magical moment where the moon blocks out the sun!

  but only just enough to perfectly cover the suns disc, whilst still allowing us to see the corona of light and other electromagnetic forces radiating from it.. this only happens because the moon diameter is exactly 1/400th the size of the suns and is positioned at exactly 1/400th of the distance between earth and the sun!so, when we see it from the surface of earth, we are in the only place this can ever be seen, at the only time it could ever happen.

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  Question for science geeks

  by rebelfighter in

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  do any of you know anything about prescription medications and their reactions?

  the doctors cannot explain why but i react to everything they prescribe to the point that now all my doctors are attempting neutral remedies before medication.

  tomorrow i am having surgery to drill a hole in my head to put in a titanium rod and we are doing local instead of general simply because it lessens the amount of needed drugs.

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  What you can probably do is look at the ingredients present in all the medications that you have had adverse reactions to and see if there is a common ingredient in them all. If there is a common ingredient then you may be allergic to it or maybe your body is unable to process that ingredient.
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  The borg is fighting tooth and nail to not turn over sex abuse records, and the press is taking note :)

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/12/jehovahs-witnesses-under-pressure-over-handling-of-sexual-abuse-claims.

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  The borg is fighting tooth and nail...

  Don't you mean "tooth and claw"?